Crawl // See you later, alligator

SPEAKER_01 0:27

Welcome to the Gory Deta podcast, where we discuss horror from every angle. It's all fair game. We break it down with humor, sarcasm, and curiosity, looking at what scares and excites us most, what gets ignored, and the people shaping the genre right now. So Azuma, what have you been up to lately? I know it's your birthday month, so you you're one of these people that does a birthday month.

SPEAKER_03 0:49

I know. And I think people hate it when you call it a birthday month, but I don't really call it that. I just call it my birthday. It's my birthday all of July. My birthday is actually on the 20th, but um I celebrate it the whole month. Yes, you do. I've been shopping. I found the coolest toys lately. I found the coolest toys. I found um a Freddie Krueger pull string doll from the 90s, and he says all kinds of cool shit. And um I found an alien queen that I like. Um I also found um some Funkos that I really like, like Pumpkin Head and uh a couple of others that from Alien that were like ones that I hadn't had before. And I was really surprised because I just found these out in the wild while I've been out shopping.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

Out in the wild, I love that.

SPEAKER_03 1:44

Yeah. I even found from the thing, the uh dog creature. I thought that one was pretty badass.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

So I have some pretty badass Funko's that I add to my collection. We need to share these on our Instagram so people can see them because I don't think uh like she's pretending to hold them up. I think that's what you've been doing right there. Because you have you have an amazing collection. She really does. It's like you walk in to her place and it's like they're you shelves upon shelves of this amazing collection. What would you say is the thing that you collect the most of? Ooh, I'd have to say Chucky.

SPEAKER_03 2:28

I think Chucky, my Chucky collection is the biggest. And I don't have the big giant dolls the way that I want them. I only have one um life size, I think it's called life size Chucky doll. But I want one Glenn life size one, and I want a Tiffany one. But from my collection itself, I collect anything that's that's Chucky. So I have tons of Funko's, tons of dolls, action figures, NECA, um stuffed Chuckies, the Antiphany, of course, um, stickers, pins, bags, everything that I can find. T-shirts, of course, because I'm a big t-shirt collector. I've I don't know how many t-shirts I have, but I don't have to repeat a t-shirt like for months and months.

SPEAKER_01 3:18

I love the way you looked very proud of yourself when you said that. But yeah, your birthday's not here yet, so maybe you might be surprised. Who knows?

SPEAKER_03 3:28

Oh, yeah, and one of the other things that I collect, I of course, because you started the conversation, I have to finish it. But I collect um Monster High collector dolls, and that collection is the prettiest collection that I have. I collect all of them. I just I love the Monster High, the way that they came up with like the alien doll. Um, that one was my special, like I think is the coolest doll out of all of them. The Beetlejuice doll set from um that they have is like pretty badass. The I remember when that one came out, yeah. Yeah, I've got the killer clowns one, uh, shorty. That one was so beautiful. And Elvira, uh they even have a RuPaul one that's beautiful. And well, I have it too. I have it too.

SPEAKER_01 4:22

But yeah, so I love the way you're just going through your toys. I just they're not toys, sorry. I apologize. Your collection. Action figures, no, they're dolls.

SPEAKER_03 4:35

They're dolls and toys. It's okay. Do you play with them? Not really, but I set them up, you know, and I move them around from time to time. That way they get, you know, they get their leg work in.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

They get their workout in a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 4:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:51

No, no, no, I better not say that. That kind of creeps me out a little bit. But speaking of getting creeped out or maybe not, I don't know. What what movie did we discuss this week?

SPEAKER_03 5:01

We're talking about crawl. Crawl. Ooh. Um I picked this one out of random because for some reason summer makes me think of aquatic horror. And um, the first movie that jumped into my mind was Crawl. So have you seen it before?

SPEAKER_01 5:18

I had not. Had you.

SPEAKER_03 5:20

Ooh, yes, I've seen it before. Oh, I love it when we pick movies where one of us hasn't seen it before. That's nice.

SPEAKER_01 5:26

Yeah. So, okay. Did is this a movie you had been a uh a fan of before, or what's going on here? You had. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:35

Yes, I liked it. I liked it a lot. What is your first thoughts about the movie?

SPEAKER_01 5:39

Okay, so first thoughts. Do you want to you want my honest opinion on this movie? Yes. What's your honest opinion? My honest opinion, um, I'm I'm not a I'm not a fan. Sorry. I'm just gonna put it out there and then we'll get into it, I guess. Uh it is uh one of those movies where um I'll just say it, it's like, why does the animal always have to be the bad guy?

SPEAKER_03 6:07

I just like see, those are my favorite kind. That's why I like I like aquatic whore. I love the shark movie where the shark is the bad thing. Um, this one throughout, it's just at first it's an alligator. We'll get into it, but then it's two alligators, surprising. And then it's a whole bunch of alligators, and that's what I loved about it. I don't know if you think of alligating.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

You're not the only person. You're not the only person, and we'll get into it right now. So those were our first thoughts. We're gonna go into this is 84% on rotten tomatoes. 84%. So if you remember from last week, this not this movie, this movie, like I just said, is 84%. The movie from last week was Eden Lake. Eden Lake was 74%, and this movie's 84%. So how's that sitting with you, Alma? Ooh, um, I think that's pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 7:12

I think that's pretty good. This is I'm surprised it's more than that. But honestly, I just like I have a taste for these type of movies, so I think that it's right on.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

Okay, now IMDB describes this as very straightforward. Gigantic alligators swarm around a young woman and her father as floodwaters engulf their home.

SPEAKER_03 7:40

It's like that's it, which is pretty on point. Yeah, because they don't even have like regular size alligators. These are the giant kind, the really big well-fed ones. Which is scary.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

They're well-fed. They're very they're very well fed, and we'll get into that as well because uh uh we'll uh we'll just talk about that. Alma, who who wrote this, who directed, who's in it?

SPEAKER_03 8:08

Written by Michael Rasmussen and Sean Rasmussen, directed by Alexander Asia, um, Keya or Kaya Scotelario as Haley, and Barry Piper as Dave. It only has those two main characters. It has a mother little supporting cast that gets eaten.

SPEAKER_01 8:26

It's Barry Pepper, but yeah. Um so that's how they sucker you in. You got Barry Pepper in this movie, thinking you're gonna, oh, he's he's a really good actor. And then it ends up being this movie. And even though Alma's like, yeah, it's this movie. That's right, motherfucker. It's this movie. I'm like over here, like, what? Is this the movie that I end up with? I'm sorry, Alma. We're gonna we'll discuss, but I I just was not a fan of this movie. But that's just me. And you know me, I do not like I don't like shitting on movies. I will always find something good about every movie that I like, or I just won't say anything at all. But that's the chosen movie to talk about, and and I have to get into it. You know, I gotta discuss what's going on.

SPEAKER_03 9:25

I'll get mine in and then we'll have the whole well well-rounded movie and discussed.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

I like that that that both of us did not both of us did not agree on this movie though. That's kind of cool. So we're not gonna both be saying the same things about it. Okay, first off, I want to say this movie very straightforward. Like I said, these alligators are coming for it's a it's a mother, not a mother, sorry, it's a father and daughter duo trapped inside the house in a crawl space under the house. And it it starts off like Alma said, one alligator coming at them, ends up being two alligators, ends up being more. And my frustration comes from alligators any animal, the animals in these movies always end up being the bad guys being written so ridiculous for me, for me, end up having these eating habits that are so not like them.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

I know, I love that so much. They have an appetite, like they're gonna eat one whole person, but they're gonna eat two whole persons, and then they're gonna get three people, and it's like, how many do they need to eat in order to survive? I think that's way too many, but then they get more, and it's it's it's laughable, and that's what's so great about it.

SPEAKER_01 10:58

And like with how Alma said, I know going into these movies, I just have to suspend disbelief. You have to in these movies. You have to go in doing a lot of that for any horror movie. I get that, but I just want a little bit of something to work with, and alligators are already scary, and to have these alligators eat how many people, how many people got killed in this? Five people. Five people. I love the way you always have my kill count for me.

SPEAKER_03 11:45

I'm always in there all counting. How many did they eat? How many was that? Five people. This five.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Oh, and there was a dog in this movie. Yeah, and the dog came out okay. The dog was called sugar, I think it was, right?

SPEAKER_03 12:00

Yes, yes. And that was a point that was made in the trivia. If you read the trivia for this on IMDB, there's quite a bit. And um the dog, they went back and forth on whether or not they were going to let it live. And there was multiple ways that they thought of how they could kill the dog and how it could be heroic, or maybe the um the protagonist would throw the dog to save themselves, um, or any number of ways that they thought the dog would die. But in the end, they thought it was better just to let them let the dog live. And the whole movie you're wondering, is the dog gonna die? Is the dog gonna die? And then he lives. Or she.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

And I can't remember if it's a he or a she. But you could always go to does the dogdie.com and you can find out there before the movies when the movie first starts and you see there's a dog in it. Of course. I think I mentioned that last week as well. Did you did you know the dog was gonna live? I looked it up on does the dogdie.com.

SPEAKER_03 13:14

That was such an exciting point of the movie. It was such an exciting point that the dog was like.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

Well, it was a cute, such a cute dog. I wanted to look it up. And then I didn't look up anything else. I just saw Does the Dog Die? And I saw the green no and I went for it. I would have still watched it, obviously, but I would have known going in that I was gonna see a scene somewhere where the dog died heroically, heroically, most likely, is how I see it in a movie like that. That's probably how it would have happened. Um, but okay, let's get into the movie a little bit. All right, so we have this daughter, she's supposed to be, what is she in? Is she in college? Is she supposed to be in college or something?

SPEAKER_03 13:58

She's in college because she is on a competitive swim team. And um she is uh well, I just said a swimmer. And I love that it starts with that because as soon as you see any activity that they're to do that they're doing is are the if they're running, the movie's gonna come down to them running. If they're swimming, the movie's gonna come down to them swimming. If somebody has asthma, somebody's gonna have, it's gonna play into it later on in the movie. And in this case, she's a competitive swimmer, and she mentions that she might lose her scholarship because she was a little bit behind on her races. But I love that that showed it in the beginning because the whole time I'm like, she's gonna end up having to outswim an alligator. She's gonna have to outswim an alligator. You know what's gonna happen. It's gonna be her and some alligators. And um yeah, so that's what it, that's where we find out she's in college and she goes to check up on her dad because nobody is he's not answering his phone during a hurricane.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

So during a hurricane.

SPEAKER_03 15:08

Oh, that too.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

Yeah, so you had two things. Two things it's not just regular old alligators walking around just creating mayhem. It's during a hurricane and flooding, and he for some reason decided to go to their old house because his him and his wife went through a divorce, a recent divorce. So he goes back to the old house to do some repairs because they're supposed to be putting it up for sale, blah, blah, blah. Doesn't really matter all that much right now because he's just in the house and he's there. Daughter goes to go find him, she finds him there injured. What injured him, oh no, it was an alligator. An alligator that injured him but didn't eat him for some reason because it likes to play with its food, which doesn't really do like that. But uh, so I did look up a few facts. I'm not gonna say I researched it because I didn't. I just went on Google and I searched up some stuff on like the Florida Wildlife Commission or something like that, and I saw that alligators are predators of opportunity. I'm not even sure if I'm saying that right, but basically they're they don't hunt the way they are doing in this movie, so the way they're doing it is like and they don't congregate like the way they did in this movie either. So but what is exciting about what they are doing in this movie is and they do do this in real life, they're they hide because they got great camouflage, they strike quickly, they grab their prey. The one thing that they aren't doing in this movie, which would have been kind of fun to see, is you know that barrel ru uh roll that they do when they grab the death roll. Yes. That would have been kind of cool to but they didn't do it for every every one of them. They No, not for every one of them. They did a lot of tearing, they did a lot of tearing, shaking, yeah, shaking, and because like what they were doing in this movie was like grabbing a hold of like arms and limbs and not tearing them off, also like with the with the daughter. How many times did she get her arm jacked up and like nothing happened to her?

SPEAKER_03 17:50

Like three times she gets attacked, three times because I counted once on the leg, once on an arm, and once on her shoulder. But she kills one of the alligators with her arm inside of it. So she has a gun at one point, and the when the alligator munches down on her arm, she shoots it dead, which was pretty cool. Which was pretty cool. She was quick acting, Dahlia. She was quick acting. Come on, she was quick acting.

SPEAKER_01 18:22

Oh my god, that thing had its jaws clamped down on her arm completely to the shoulder, and she was shooting it while the you know the I wish I had written down the numbers, but it has like the pressure that it has clamped down on her shoulder, it would have ripped off her arm. It would have ripped off her.

SPEAKER_03 18:46

Well, the dad loses his arm when he is in the water too. So it does show that the alligator will rip your limbs off in like no time and super easy. And I thought that was sad though. I was like, he already got attacked a bunch. He got away from the alligator in the beginning before we even see him because he got tangled in some stuff and the alligators couldn't get through. So he had that opportunity, but then they thought, okay, let's do some more to him. Let's have him lose a limb. And he loses his arm and it's like really nasty. Like the alligator just munches it and twists it off. Really gross. It's really awesome.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

And one thing that was really interesting was that there were so many alligators, so many that, like I said, that ended up congregating around their house. Why so many?

SPEAKER_03 19:49

It's it's interesting because I think the dad is the one who kills an alligator first. So they're on the they're being very defensive, the uh the the people, of course. Like they're picking up and they're trying to hide, and they're trying to stay away from the alligators, but then they have to go on the offensive, which is the greatest part because it's like you guys are gonna have to get out of there. You can't just live in the thingy when the water's rising, you're gonna end up drowning. And the dad kills one of the alligators first using a spade and or a small shovel, and then you think, okay, one alligator down. And then she ends up killing an alligator with the gun. And then you're like, hooray, two alligators down. But then what happens is they end up showing that there's a hell of a lot more alligators. So what was the fucking point of showing that they killed the two alligators? Because to me, they could have killed zero of them because there was already fucking a dozen of them swimming around outside.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

And interestingly, I did look this up because I was like, there's so many alligators. This is ridiculous. Um, so during a hurricane or during any kind of flooding, yes, the the floodwaters can bring in the alligators into neighborhoods. You see them in swimming pools, uh, the streets, golf courses, etc. Um, so it's not unheard of to see them come into the neighborhoods. Um, the number though that we saw there in the movie obviously exaggerated for the movie. But uh, and yeah, seeing them obviously kill a couple was to create that tension so that we can see, like, oh, they killed a couple, yay! Oh my motherfucking god, there are like a million more out here for them to have to switch through and get to to that boat. 'Cause they were trying to they when they saw a whole bunch of them, a whole bunch more, it's cause they were trying to get to a boat to uh Yeah, right? It was when they were trying to get to a boat to go to safety.

SPEAKER_03 22:05

Yes. In the beginning of the movie, when she goes to check on her dad, she she she drives through like a checkpoint and there's some cops and she knows one of them and they come to check up on them. So that was something that happened. And then um I don't remember the point that I was trying to make here, but the alligators are then shown because the the the two alligators are dead, and then on the outside, one of the cops gets out of the boat and they're torn apart by a whole bunch of alligators. That's when they show all the alligators were there. And they had there were a lot of them though. It was like they were having a little alligator party and they were just waiting around for for free people to eat. And that was the that was the sad part because that cop went to go check on her and the dad, and you thought maybe they're gonna you well, you knew they weren't gonna be rescued because of the point in the movie it is. You're like, yeah, definitely they're the something's gonna happen to the cop or whatever like that. But he brought a cop friend. So those two cops die for nothing. And the other people that get eaten are looters, so they're trying to make you not feel bad for the looters, and then they they but then they bring in the two cops that they kind of want you to feel bad for because they were there to rescue them, and they get eaten by a whole bunch of alligators, and they don't even get eaten all the way because they show like the one cop body just floating around the whole rest of the movie underneath the basement.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

So there you have that. Exactly. It's like it's a waste, a waste of food. It's like, aren't you at least gonna eat your waste of your meat? I mean, it's not like you're a hippo or anything. Hippos kill f are the ones that kill for just because you're you're in my territory. Alligators are supposed to be eating for food. They don't do that shit. At least that's as far as I know. But speaking of out these alligators and uh a mix of CGI and puppetry, is there some kind of uh I don't know. You got some real shit going on here?

SPEAKER_03 24:29

I don't know. I don't know. They mention they mention the CGI in a lot. So I don't know if they do.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

All I know is that I was deeply, deeply disappointed in it.

SPEAKER_03 24:44

I read more about the the dog than I think I read about the the alligators, because they had a couple of trainers for the dog to make sure that the dog went on cue to places and and things like that. I find that amazing. I like looking at that kind of stuff. Like they have this little dog and it's making a movie and it really doesn't understand that it's making a movie. Isn't that the cutest thing ever? It's just like I went to work today. Yeah, what did you do? I walked it up to a person and there was a bunch of noise and water.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

So speaking of the dog, uh, I do kind of want to mention why do we panic more when the dog is in danger than we do when there's a human in danger?

SPEAKER_03 25:29

I mean, it's true, right? It's true. But also in the movies, it's because we they don't know what's going on. They have no clue what's going on, like the people do. The people know they're in a fight for their life for alligators, and the dog just thinks, why are we wet? Why are we inside? Why is there water coming in here? And I hate the water because most dogs are just completely terrified of the rain and thunder and and all that. But this one wasn't because it's specially trained.

SPEAKER_01 25:58

So he was saying Exactly, exactly. I think that's why, because they don't know what's going on. If they get hurt, they don't know why they got hurt. They don't know why they're in pain. They don't know why this these things are happening around them. If they see a monster, they don't like obviously, you know, talking about movie monsters, you know, like it. Why am I explaining this? Of course, we're talking about movie monsters. I'm not talking about monsters in real life. What am I I'm over here explaining this to you all? What's wrong with me? But anyways. So in the movie, we talked about how Haley is a competitive swimmer, and so she's gonna outswim these fucking alligators.

SPEAKER_03 26:45

Now, the dad says you're faster than they are. So is that I forgot.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

I forgot she was like this up after after all the shit that I was looking up. Yeah, because I was looking up all these other facts.

SPEAKER_03 27:00

And I forgot to look that up. Maybe you can still look it up because the Okay, you you talk and I'll look this shit up because I was making fun of that hardcore. The dad said that. So, like maybe a competitive swimmer can swim faster than an alligator. So it's pretty easy to find out how fast can an alligator swim. And then it has tiny arms, you know, and I figure that it can move quickly because of its tail and swivel left and right and all that kind of stuff. But honestly, look it up so we can find out because I really want to know. And there's one part where she needs to swim to a boat. So there's a boat nearby. They need to get up in it because the levees are going to break and the rest of the floodwaters are gonna come in and the water is gonna get higher than the house. So, um, all right, they get out of the crawl space. That's one of the big things. Okay, so the basement, they get out of there. So the flood waters are rising.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

She's gonna get to the boat, she has to swim for it. And he said, What do what do we say? And she says nothing because this is the part that I laugh at. So she takes off swimming and she makes it to the boat right by the skin of her teeth, gets in and shouts, Apex Predator all day. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

Oh my God, that was so embarrassing.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

Apex predator all day, and then she takes off and gets to the dad and the dog and gets them in the boat. The levees break, the water rises, it shoves them back into the fucking house. So they are in their boat and they're back in their house, and the alligators are following. And I'm like, why are they following? Why are these alligators so what's the word? Because what's the word? Determines.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

They were tericals. They were dedicals.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

That's the only word I can think of. Yeah. But I don't know like an English word that is as good as that. Why are they so dedicated? And so they're in the house with the with the fucking alligators again.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

Yeah, it was like all of it was for nothing. They she goes out, she swims towards the boat to rescue her dad and the dog so they could swim away, and then the levees breaks, and then they end up right back in the house with the alligators all over again. So yeah, all of that for nothing. Everything Eloise ends up being for nothing, of course. Of course. It's it's a scary movie, it's a horror movie, it's an animal horror movie, it's a creature feature. It's gonna be like that. I know you have to have these plot points. Speaking of, alligators can uh reach up to 20 miles per hour, and human, the fastest humans, can swim up to 5.4 miles per hour.

SPEAKER_03 30:20

Okay, so not even in the same boat here. She should have been able to outswim the alligators in the short distance. You know, if the alligators are distracted, she beat the alligator in a very short distance.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

In a short distance, perhaps. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:44

So he was just hyping her up because that's his daughter. That's all. You know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

He needed it, he needed her to survive. So it's like, yeah, baby, you're faster than them alligators. You're faster. Yeah, you can do it.

SPEAKER_03 30:56

And luckily, she did do it. She did do it. Well, once they make it into the house, it's like, okay, we're stuck in this boat again. Um, I just need these people to live now because of after all of the uh were you brooding for them to live? Were you thinking the dad was gonna die? I thought the dad was gonna die for sure.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

I thought the dad was gonna die, and I was gonna be totally okay with that. I wasn't really I knew she wouldn't die, but I really didn't care if any of them died. Honestly, I really I really didn't care. Yeah, here's the truth. Many times, many times while watching this movie, I kept I f I forgot I was watching it for this podcast, and I was I wanted to grab my phone and start doing something, and then or I wanted to get up and come and come do something else, and I was like, oh shit, no, I can't. I'm watching this for the podcast. And I was like, I kept stopping myself from doing something else, and I was like, oh my god. And it's not I know that's mean, I know that's so mean, because you know me, I like to find something good in every movie, but I I just couldn't get past I it was not it was not my movie. I know you're sorry.

SPEAKER_03 32:15

I know your taste and what it how it when it comes to the animals and and um how when they're made the monster and and stuff, you know they're not realistic. I know about sharks and and things like that. Um, but to me, I just find it I find it exciting. I find it exciting because I'm already scared of that particular animal and also hurricanes because we live in a a hurricane area, you know, turn it up. Like, what are you gonna do? How are you gonna escape? And then if you didn't escape in time, now you're left with alligators.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

Yeah, so okay, so having said all that, I get it. This movie it's not pretending to be anything but it but what it is. It's it's a fun animal creature feature, whatever. It's not a documentary, so I'm not I'm gonna give it that, you know.

SPEAKER_03 33:20

You know, you mentioned that one time I wrote a review for, and I I'm not I'm not gonna fill in the blank because I watch all of the shark movies, but there was a particular shark movie that I remember writing a review for, and you wrote me the note. We're not this isn't a documentary or something like that, because I was I was bothered by the sharks and how they made the sharks. So I I decided to add in a little bit of shark facts. I was trying to help people, okay, to know that no, you're not going to get attacked like a s by a shark like this situation. Here are some interesting shark facts that I ended up taking out because it was so funny that I did that. But it was because I was thinking of people like you who are like, this is trash. This would never happen. And this is why people hate sharks, and this is why they get a bad reputation. And I was just thinking of that and thinking, okay, I'll put in some, I'll put in some little details here that'll make people feel better about sharks and shark conservation.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

That is so funny because I do believe, I really do believe that some things have a place. And um sometimes I just like I think that's why I said I don't like shitting on movies, because I think like a movie like this has its uh its audience and you're its audience. You love creature features, you love animals, you love you said you love aquatic type uh uh where the aquatic beasts is are the are the predator. So this was perfect for you. I was, on the other hand, I was not I mean I'm not always gonna be like, oh my god, the alligator's a bad guy. I can't watch this. No, it just happened to be when I watched this one, I was like, it was not for me.

SPEAKER_00 35:25

That's it.

SPEAKER_03 35:27

And when I see movies with the water and animals, I'm gonna be like, this movie is for me. I love movies The Crazier the Better, Sharknado. Of course, you know I love that.

SPEAKER_01 35:39

Oh, I love Sharknado. Sharknado is great that movie is is what it is. That's meant from the from the get-go. That is meant to be outrageous. See, I can go with that because from the get-go, it's meant to be outrageous. This movie, on the other hand, uh, feels like it's trying to be a little bit more serious, and then maybe that's why I have a little bit of a problem with it.

SPEAKER_03 36:06

Yeah. I of course I see the difference because um the one movie is s sweeping up sharks into a tornado. And the other one is different.

SPEAKER_01 36:31

So I have a question for you. Okay, so these are actual alligators. So what's scarier for you? An a monster that's made up or an animal that actually exists?

SPEAKER_03 36:41

The the animal that actually exists. This is why these type of movies, um, when it's a person, when it's a real person, a slasher is gonna scare me more. A movie with an animal is gonna scare me more. Um I remember I watched Beast, I think it's called Beast with a Lion. Yeah, it was um those type of movies are gonna scare me more because I think of wild life to be a lot scarier. And I also, the reason I like this one is because water is also another fear of mine being in the water. I can't swim. Um, there's a bunch of things in the ocean that'll kill you. Um, that type of thing. So yeah, definitely real life horror to me is way scarier than and I think that's why I enjoy watching horror so much because I'm not getting really scared about zombies, even though they terrify me. At the end of the day, I'm more scared about an alligator swimming through my window. And I live near alligators, so that's a real fear. It's like when I see a fence that says, Yeah, be careful, there's there's alligators. I'm like, I'm I just imagine the alligator climbing the fence and coming towards me, like, what the fuck is the fence gonna do? You know they can climb fences? Yeah, I'm pretty sure they can, especially because they're long tails and they can propel themselves. I see that. I see that, and that terrifies me.

SPEAKER_01 38:21

Yeah. I've never seen it happen, but I've been told that they can do that, they can do that. So um, I don't know if I was being lied to, but I've been told they can climb fences. So I'm just gonna take that as gospel, I guess. So final thoughts on the movie. I obviously was not a fan. I um am not too crazy about alligators, alligators in the sewer. Not too crazy about um alligators, uh, in general, animals being the bad guys. And it they weren't really, I don't think they really were the bad guys, but you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 39:02

They just not a fan.

SPEAKER_03 39:08

Well, I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed the movie. I thought it was fun from the beginning to the end. I thought it was exciting. I was reading for the mom, I mean the mom, the daughter, and the dad to make it, and especially the dog. Especially the dog. I was of course, and so they it made me happy that they all three lived, even though five people got eaten for no reason.

SPEAKER_01 39:36

Well, of course. I don't want to make it seem like I didn't want them to live.

SPEAKER_03 39:40

Yeah, Dahlia. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:43

I wanted to care about the people. Well, I did. Of course, I did. And the dog as well. Poor alligators and poor alligators that died. And the poor alligators I wanted them to live. I don't care about the alligators more than I did about the people. It's just that, uh, like I said, I many times I was wanted to get up during the movie and just walk away, but I didn't, and I watched it for my sister because I love her and she chose this movie. And uh I was sitting through it and I watched it, and therefore it was watched. There you go. All right, all right. We watched the movie Crawl, and oh, where did you watch it? Oh, I watched it on Tubi with commercials. Oh, I watched it with commercials as well. And uh, yeah, that was another thing that kind of took me out of it. Uh, watching it with commercials, I think, probably was not the best because it took me out of it. Um, normally commercials don't bother me for some movies. Like I I can watch movies on Tubi and Pluto or whatever other, you know, one of those uh platforms is, and it doesn't really usually bother me. But for this movie, probably because it wasn't too I wasn't too much of a fan to begin with, it kept taking me out of the movie, you know? So I get that. Probably not the best way to watch this movie for me. So, anyways, but that was uh that was I already forgot the name of the movie, Crawl. And we watched it on uh, I think I watched it on Pluto or Tubi maybe even. And uh, all right then. So, Alma, where can people find us on the interwebs?

SPEAKER_03 41:29

You can find us at our website, thegory detailspodcast.com, on Instagram, thegory podcast, on blue sky, thegory details, and buy meacoffee.com slash thegory details.

SPEAKER_01 41:44

All right, everybody, thank you for listening this week. Until next time, bye. Bye bye.